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I would imagine these folks are being treated like gods at their companies. And having access to all the money/fame. It is not surprising they see themselves above all

It’s hard to give openai the benefit of doubt here

Yea he only runs one of the biggest technology companies in the world.


1 ex-PHP-dev CEO != 100,000+ SWEs who actually build technology of FB/Meta/IG/Whasapp


You are correct. An individual developer's narrowly-scoped view of their work is not the same as an executive's view of the entire business.


A what ?


what does "runs" actually mean? zoom calls from his private Hawai island to a bunch of buddies other C-level execs?


It means he has a controlling share over the money and all the power.

This thread is bizarre.

He can run the day to day string pulling however he wants, he is literally the one with all the power.


Is it bizarre? Or is it you surrealist line of thinking here? What's your angle here? Man with power and money == A cornerstone knowledge base if you want know anything about AI? Wtf.


The question was, ‘who is in charge’, not ‘who I think should be, if it was my money’.

Y’all are delusional.

If you think they’re idiots, go start your own companies and eat their lunch. They got rich by eating someone else’s lunch, after all.

Right now, it is their game to lose.


Trump, Musk, Andreessen, Thiel, Biden, and Bankman-Fried all have or had a lot of power, and I would look to none of them if I wanted to get a better understanding of reality. If anything, I expect this kind of skin in the game to be strongly anticorrelated with providing useful takes; these are the people with the greatest incentives to mislead the public.


I suppose they should. That seems like the right, or at least a related, discipline for some of the questions raised by ai developments. But i cannot help but feel completely unenthusiastic about the idea of the AI labs controlling the narrative around societal impact of AI.


They need sociologist of the goal is to mitigate societal impact, not philosophers


Not sure i would trust coinbase with any cyrpto from now on.


I don’t get it. This whole thing says single writer does not scale, so we stopped writing as much and removed reads away from it, so it works ok and we decided that’s enough. I guess thats great.


This article has very little useful information...

There's nothing novel about optimizing queries, sharding and using read replicas.


It has one piece of useful info: their main data store even for 800M users is a single instance of postgres (for writes) without sharding.


The post tells you there is a single point of failure: if you wanted to DDOS OpenAI, you'd target write-heavy operations.

For that reason, I find it actually bold that they disclosed it, and I appreciate it.

The article reminded me of a similar post about MySQL use for Facebook from the Meta team, which had the same message: big database servers are powerful workhorses that scale and are very cost-effective (and simpler to manage than distributed setups where writes need be to carefully orchestrated - a very hard task).

The two core mesages of both articles combined could be read as: 1. big DB servers are your friend and 2. keep it simple, unless you can't avoid the extra complexity any more.


What Facebook post are you referring to? Generally speaking, Facebook's MySQL infra has been heavily sharded for a very long time, and doesn't rely on abnormally-beefy servers. It's basically the complete opposite approach of what OpenAI is describing here.


when I joined twitter in 2011 there was a single mysql master user (not tweets) database and a few dozen read replicas. it was writing about 7000 updates per second and during bursts it would go too high for the single-threaded replication in mysql at the time to keep up with the master which would cause replication lag and all kinds of annoying things in the app. you just have to pick the right time to make the switch before it is an emergency.


Postgres setups are typically based on physical replication, which is not an option on MySQL. My testing shows the limit to be about 177k tps with each transaction consisting of 3 updates and 1 insert.


Be careful. During consulting I ran into similar magnitude of writes for a mostly CRUD workload.

They had huge problems with VACUUM at high tps. Basically the database never had space to breath and cleanup.


Sometimes it is convenient that there are no backups. Just saying…


So sam was getting paid - possibly in egregious amounts while lying to congress?


VC huckster lies to the public, news at 11.


AI has to be the solution to everything to justify the kind of investments going into it right now.

Sam’s a savvy businessman so he obviously understands that and goes few steps further. He promises exponential returns and addresses any regulatory and societal concerns. This piece is strategically crafted, not for us, but for investors.


Don’t think you will become as rich as musk, sam


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