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Please stop this.

How did we collectively accept that it's ok that a private company can forever change how our sky looks like (especially at night) for the generations to come?

This is so dystopian but it seems nobody cares. The most important thing is to have fast internet to watch cool AI-generated videos.

So depressing.


i think you need help


In a webring, do you usually always have the same fixed webring neighbours?

Back in the days, how did it usually work about this : If your neighbour has only 7 visitor/day but you do have 100/day, can you ask to change and have this other 10000 visitor/day-site as neighbour?

As a webring admin, how do you manage these member requests?


Back in the days, the webring idea wasn’t driven by popularity groups and metrics but by affinity, from the perspective of authors.

A ring was thematic, friends, interest.


You can use this small Python script to display an histogram of `reasoning_output_tokens` in your past Codex sessions. I do see a spike at 516 indeed.

  import os, glob, re
  import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
  vals = []
  for f in glob.glob(os.path.expanduser(r"~\.codex") + r"\**\*", recursive=True):
      if os.path.isfile(f):
          try:
              s = open(f, "r", encoding="utf-8", errors="ignore").read()
              vals += [int(x) for x in re.findall(r'"reasoning_output_tokens"\s*:\s*(\d+)', s)]
          except Exception:
              pass
  plt.hist(vals, bins=200, range=(0, 5000), weights=[100 / len(vals)] * len(vals))
  plt.xlabel("reasoning_output_tokens")
  plt.ylabel("%")
  plt.show()


I just tried `deno desktop helloworld.ts` and the result is 442 MB. So it's not any lighter than Electron (see my toplevel comment)


Then it probably was wishful thinking on my side...


> deno desktop is opinionated about those tradeoffs:

> Small by default, full Node compatibility

I tried `deno desktop index.ts` with the 5-line Hello world in the article.

Result (Windows 10): 442 MB. Ouch.

I thought it would be smaller than an Electron build, but it's far worse. Did I do something wrong?

(libcef.dll: 247 MB) (deno-test.dll: 78 MB <- contains the hello world)


With Visual Studio and Photino, after some tweaking I managed to publish everything in a single .exe file. In Debug mode it produces more files to have source maps that work well. There's no hot-reload but at least it works well.

The Photino app is 18 Mb and it's a real app not a hello world. I'm not sure how much RAM it used since maybe it uses a secondary process (edge webview).

I tried deno desktop with the minimal js file to see if I can avoid relying on VS and C# but it's really bad currently, at least on Windows.

Both the webview and the cef backend produce multiple files and are we supposed to launch a .bat file? It opens a terminal Window (what the hell?) and a UI that doesn't even work. I got to see the Hello message in cef mode but the unicode emoticon doesn't work.


libcef is the Chromium embedded framework[0], so your build isn't using a webview or maybe its using both. I just tried it on my mac, and I can't keep libcef out even with `--backend webview`.

https://github.com/chromiumembedded/cef


IIRC Electron hello world is ~ 100-150 MB because it bundles a browser/Chromium runtime.

So I hoped we could have a <= 20 MB solution by reusing the OS webview or similar. Having more than 400 MB is a bit deceptive for me. (Again: maybe I just did something wrong in the config: should I do something else than `deno desktop test.ts`?)


Try the webview backend: `deno desktop --backend webview`


This gives a 77 MB folder, not containing the browser (we're now using the OS' webview).

I wouldn't call this "Small by default".

I used this main.ts file: `Deno.serve(() => new Response("<h1>Hello, desktop</h1>", { headers: { "content-type": "text/html" }, }));`

and `deno desktop --backend webview main.ts`.

Unfortunately, launching `deno-test.bat` opens an empty white window, freezed (with waiting cursor...) on my Windows 10.



apologies, this is inaccurate currently, will get things updated


Nice project, always interesting to see HTMX-inspired frameworks.

If you want something even more minimalistic, I did Swap.js: 100 lines of code, handles AJAX navigation, browser history, custom listeners when parts of DOM are swapped, etc.

https://github.com/josephernest/Swap.js

Using it for a few production products and it works quite well!


Nice! 100 lines is impressive. µJS is a bit more feature-rich (patch mode, SSE, DOM morphing, View Transitions...) but if you need something truly minimal, Swap.js looks like a great option.


Let's say I want to compile a helloworld.cpp with no build tools installed yet.

What is the minimal winget command to get everything installed, ready for : cl main.cpp ?

Ps: I mean a winget command which does not ask anything, neither in command line, nor GUI ? Totally unattenfed.


The winget installer just downloads vs_buildtools.exe and runs it, which first installs vs_setup.exe and then that one prompts you for the workloads you want. I believe passing --silent to the winget installer will install vs_setup unattended but not any workloads from the Build Tools.

To install it all in a single step, and beware I haven't tested this, you're better off downloading and running yourself

  vs_buildtools.exe --quiet --add Microsoft.VisualStudio.Workload.VCTools
adding whatever workloads you need.

Then you'll need to locate and run vcvarsall.bat to setup the environment, which will require some clever code if you're doing it from PowerShell instead of a .bat, and then you can finally call the compiler.


In France (and probably everywhere) there is currently massive deployment of FTTH (fiber to the home) and removal of copper lines, since a decade.

Does this mean we could have kept the good old copper lines from 60 years ago and still enjoy 1 Gbit internet in residential areas?


Yes, yes it does.


Do I understand correctly: would someone have a concrete example of URL which is both an IP address and HTTPS, widely accessible from global internet? e.g. https://<ipv4-address>/ ?


The websites for DNS servers known by IP? https://1.1.1.1/ presents a valid cert although it redirects.


Out of curiosity, any other example without redirect, in which the URL stays https://<ip> in the browser?


Related: for some hardware project, I have a backend server (either C++ or python) receiving frames from an industrial camera, uncompressed.

And I need these frames displayed in a web browser client but on the same computer (instead of network trip like in this article).

How would you do this ?

I eventually did more or less like OP with uncompressed frames.

My goal is to minimize CPU usage on the computer. Would h264 compression be a good thing here given source and destination are the same machine?

Other ideas?

NB: this camera cannot be directly accessed by the browser.


> How would you do this ?

It depends. I have many questions.

> My goal is to minimize CPU usage on the computer. Would h264 compression be a good thing here given source and destination are the same machine?

No.

> Other ideas?

1. Why does it need to be displayed in a web browser (as opposed to more appropriate / better performing software specifically built for video)?

2. via what interface/library is the camera connected to the machine? What format/codec is the uncompressed stream you're getting from the camera?

3. I am available at very reasonable consulting rates


Thanks.

1. It is part of a bigger web-browser dashboard/control interface and this camera display is just one component among many others.

2. Some of the (USB) cameras can have proprietary interfaces such as https://www.ximea.com/support/wiki/apis/python

How would you do in this situation, to have the video stream in the browser, with as low CPU usage as possible?

3. Not for this project but for a future project, feel free to put a link to your portfolio or contact page (even if you remove the comment later)


1. fair enough

2. "How would you do in this situation, to have the video stream in the browser, with as low CPU usage as possible?"

Since it's being consumed on (only) the local machine you've got an excellent situation where you can use any obscure codec you like, as long as the browser you're using supports it. Also you don't need to care at all about network bandwidth. If minimising CPU usage is the #1 priority then something fairly lightweight like mjpeg might do the trick. Alternatively you might get away with not compressing the video at all (but this might cause issues due to dealing with huge amounts of data). If I wanted to minimise CPU usage, I wouldn't be doing it in python.

3. You can find me if you look.


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