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The extrinsic value of music is to entertain. The craft is part of the appeal.

Much of paid software is written to provide a business outcome. I hand-code at home while relaxing. I use the LLM harness at work to produce value for the business at the expected pace. There are indeed drawbacks to using an LLM to write your software. The job is to mitigate the issues and deliver the business outcome.

There are software use cases that LLMs handle poorly. It makes sense to perform those manually.


Car washes are an order of magnitude more water efficient (enforced by state agencies) than individual home car washing.

Yeah that could be a concern depending where you live. Where I live, water is cheap and abundant. And I've never measured, but I would guess I use maybe 10 gallons to wash a car. 2 gallons in the bucket, and just a light wetting followed by soapy sponge and then a rinse, using a nozzle to create a high velocity spray. The water doesn't run at all unless I'm spraying it on the car.

Water is cheap and abundant where I live, too. If we have a problem with water in any normal year, it is usually that we have to deal with a surplus of it. (We put drainage tiles under our farm fields to get rid of excess water and generally don't even bother with irrigation systems at all.)

But car washes are interesting systems and one of the things that makes them interesting is that the water they use is (often) recycled. The same water gets reclaimed and re-used to wash cars over and over again.

I didn't look very deep at all, but one car wash chain suggests[1] a reclamation rate of 70%. Not perfect, but way better than 0.

[1]: https://www.tsunamiexpress.com/our-washes/


You can probably match that efficiency at home by using an electric pressure washer. Mine does 1.2 GPM, which means an entire car wash is only a few gallons.

That's surprising. I once tried an automated car wash just to see what all the hullabaloo was about and I think the rain actually does a better job. Worst $5 I've ever spent...

Yes. In the same way that dishwashers are an order of magnitude more water-efficient than washing by hand. (But consume a kilowatt of electricity heating the water and running the pump, which is the part that everyone always leaves out.)

You heat the water when you wash dishes by hand too, don't you? It's not very hygenic to do dishes with just cold water.

Given that by hand you use much more hot water than the dishwasher would, you're using more electricity (or gas). Since a little pump doesn't use much at all, it's mainly just the drying heat that matters. Though nobody is forced to use the drying cycle - if one enjoys drying dishes by hand, they can still use the dishwasher to do the washing.


In my house you don't heat the water but it's been sitting in a metal water tank at equitorial latitude for hours so is generally quite warm for evening dishes.

Is it safe? Not for a restaurant where the temps need to get to parasite killing temps to pass muster.. but if I had to guess, the odds of getting killed by a bad-tempered cow outweigh it by 10x.


You're assuming an absence of solar hot water heaters - the world isn't homogenous.

eg. Our household conserves water (we track every litre we bring up to the tanks and filter) and we don't have a dishwasher - hot water is heated by the sun and run-off goes to the grey water tank for the garden.


No I'm not. I don't care how you heat your water. I'm saying you (should) heat it either way, and you use more of it when hand-washing so if you do pay to heat it, you pay more by handwashing.

And in your case, you use more water because you hand-wash, than you would if you used a dishwasher. You use slightly less energy because of the pump but also a lot more of your time, so... obviously how you relatively value those different things is up to you.


You're a bit all over the shop in that answer.

Our concern here, and that of many people in the area, is total water usage per household - and to a large degree water usage for washing, showers, and toilets is a small fraction of the total usage - and one that can be ignored as most people have grey water capture (as do well planned and infrastructured cities).

Water used inside the house runs out to water food, shade, animals, etc. and that use can be deducted from the water that is required for those uses.

Energy is no great cost, it comes from the sun - both as electricity via panels and directly as heat via solar hot water systems.


When my water heating was electric, switching to a dishwasher consistently led to lower electric bills compared to a year prior (confirmed for 12 whole months).

You save water and electricity.


But can you put dishes with food on them in the dish washer?

Yes.

> Irregular wasn't involved in the OpenAI/HuggingFace incident.

It was [1]. It's understandable that you assumed it wasn't because the article didn't cite the sources on this claim. I agree with the rest of your points.

1. https://openai.com/index/third-party-cyber-evaluations-invol...


From the article you linked: "Editor’s Note: These are separate from the Hugging Face security incident"

Thank you for the correction.

Bullet trajectories are deterministic. A better analogy would be "caused a pair of trained fighting dogs to bite a passerby by leaving the gate open". There is some uncertainty and variation in the system, though gross negligence and willful endangerment is key.

Can you give some more information for buyers who want to route orders directly to sellers instead of via Amazon? Right now the only benefit for using Amazon is a unified shopping interface and free shipping using Prime.

If you're proposing a law that would not be in Dario's best interest, why address the post to him?

I explained this in the post. He seems like a genuinely good person who might actually do something this great.

He sells himself as an ethical guy, and doing things that are broadly positive for everyone even if they're against your own personal self-interest is basic ethicality.

Dude this site is so funny at times.

Incredible.

Yes, why would you ever address someone with something that is not in their best interest. Especially people that have power.

I agree. We should never do that and let them just live in peace and do their thing.


It is understandable that you think this is the case as someone who is not above the age of 50. You will see that health and life insurance premiums rise precipitously once you reach certain milestones. Once you reach 90 years old, you will find that car insurance companies will discontinue your policy based on a single traffic ticket.

We replaced preexisting condition coverage with age-based tiered pricing. If you doubt me it's trivial to validate this using your state's ACA marketplace.


Incumbent rent-seekers want regulatory capture to insulate them from externalities. Dog bites man.

Is there an implication of violation of ZDR here? Not a challenge. Just a request for clarification.

to my knowledge the mathematicians did not have ZDR so it would be incorrect to assume OAI violated such a thing.

I'm suggesting audits, not suing... if that is the implication.


By the way, the company that made it's entire product off of stealing all data it could get it's hand on while violating copyright and pirating, is not all of a sudden going to respect your data. If you think OpenAI or any major AI lab is going to give you true ZDR, I have a bridge to sell you.

So use bedrock or vertex or whatever. Those are the ZDR offerings. Or was it your intention to insinuate that the major cloud providers are conspiring with openai to violate their contractual obligations to their customers?

Yes. You're naive if you think any of these cloud providers care about your data when they're all in the midst of a AI revolution psychosis. They dont care about their reputation or what you think of them, they think they're going to have a machine god their side.

If my company finds any evidence of OpenAI violating ZDR, we'll sue for breach of contract and fraud, and collect damages. I think we'll be able to afford the bridge you're selling. You've got the title and title insurance, right?

Sure you will little bro. You signed away your right to arbitration a long time ago.

You realize OpenAI hired Apple employees and covertly had them stay working at Apple to steal from them. You think they're scared of your lawyers lol?


I'm certain my company didn't agree to arbitration, big bro. Our lawyers are putting the fries in the bag.

Isn't OpenAI being sued by Apple for their little stunt?

If you're saying "the big bad guys always win anon, just take the black pill," then there are tons of counterexamples. Remember Uber paying Google a sweet Bil for pulling this same trick with LIDAR firmware?


In practice a user will find the squat toilet to be superior until the user count increases above a dozen per hour. Then a single user will carelessly engage the spray hose and saturate the entire area. The area around the pit will be inundated with muddy water. Remediation requires a mop and bucket, which is likely only performed once daily.

An anatomically inferior sitting toilet in similar settings will often be soiled by careless users. However, a conscientious user can tidy their contact surfaces with toilet paper.

This has been my observation from my travels in the three continents I have been able to observe squat toilets in use.


> a conscientious user can tidy their contact surfaces with toilet paper.

I don't understand, because in a squat toilet, there is no contact surface!


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