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I didn't buy the MNT Reform because it simply didn't have enough RAM to be useful to me.

Now this new one has enough RAM, but it dispenses with the trackball - which was the thing that initially drew my eye to the Reform - in favor of a painfully tiny trackpad.

I just can't win with these guys! So frustrating. I want to love it.



I hope they will offer options for the keyboard, with a trackball or (better) a trackpoint.

Maybe not themselves but somebody who cares enough, given the complete openness of the thing.


I don't ever want to buy another laptop without a trackpoint.


trackpad, trackball, trackpoint ... interesting.

what are the pros and cons of them? I've only used laptops with trackpads.


- Trackpad: multi-finger gestures. Usually no explicit buttons or scroll wheels detectable by touch, so you need to look down sometimes. Potentially the trackpad allows you to jot arbitrary gestures / glyphs, given proper software. Sits tunder your palm, so you have to move your hand significantly away from the keys to operate it. Good palm rejection is a must.

- Trackpoint: single-finger micro joystick. Sits in the home row, so you can operate it by barely moving your fingers along the home row. Requires explicit buttons; combined with them, usually emulates scroll wheels, etc. Tiny precise gestures are harder. Never bothers you while typing; can be operated entirely without looking, like a mouse.

- Trackball: I have little experience with it. Sits under your thumb usually. Allows for very precise small motions; big motions are harder. Has buttons (see trackpoint), sometimes a larger assortment, accompanied with scroll wheels, etc. Some balls have considerable inertia, some totally don't. Some allow for extremely comfortable hand placement, but it's not a given. Have hard time not being rather tall / thick. Need most cleaning of the three.


> Requires explicit buttons

I had a ThinkPad i1300 back in 2003 which allowed, in Windows anyway, a thump on the trackpoint to serve as a click. That functionality seems to have been abandoned during the couple of decades I was mainly using desktops and/or MacBooks, because none of my more recent ThinkPads offer it under any OS.


That's a default off option in Control Panel. I'd recommend everyone enable that tap to click feature, sensitivity raised to ~240/255, and middle button as wheel click as must have QoL improvements for TrackPoints.


Not having to move off the home row with a trackpoint is great for RSI.


Thanks.


The SoM in this is available for the original Reform. Plus other SoMs with 8gb or 16gb have been available for some time.


https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-rcore-rk3588-proc... 500/750€ for the som is a bit spicy considering the soc itself can be brought for $150 in orange pi 5 plus (16GB); being part of the business I know how big the economy of scale is, but it still is off putting as a consumer.

Hopefully selling it as part of the new laptop will allow sufficiently bigger batches to bring this down a bit


If you're concerned about cost, the small-batch handmade laptop market probably isn't ever going to make you happy.


You can change the cpu/ram module on the original reform, or order one with a different module.


Isn't part of the ethos of the laptop being fully hackable? I'd assume you could design the case to your liking or upgrade the SoC.




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