It's hard to put a number on it, but even accounting for all the time in meetings, talking with stakeholders and developers etc I'm over 10% more productive overall. I earn substantially more than $2000/month, the ROI is there
It's only expensive compared to the currently very strong offering from OpenAI. Or other models - my hobby projects are all on DeepSeek
What you’re saying is that they should be charging $2000 or more per month then.
Perhaps that’s true, but it’s a price tag that’s a lot harder to swallow for many orgs than $200/mo, and would require some hard justification for how your increased productivity contributes to the business bottom line.
I’ll agree that you can probably do that with hard numbers. I am skeptical that most $200/mo users could.
I think the rapid improvements in local models will make a $2,000/mo price point completely impossible to sustain. This feels like a race to the bottom.
yes and no, anthropic and openai are losing money on people who max out their sub, but openai has a lot more room to play with with much cheaper models to serve (by all signs we have from actual api/task pricing)
I believe it's been crickets because open-source/DIY solutions almost never become mainstream. Devs tend to think everyone wants a self-service to save a few bucks.
Most ordinary people don't care that much about privacy and if there is a solution that just works well enough to cover their needs and costs just fair enough to be affordable, they are going to use that. I feel like this is why fast food is such a thing. There are far better food options out there that either require a little bit more effort or money. Your post on Linkedin is akin to someone claiming in 1960's America that home-cooked burgers are the future, despite McDonalds gaining ground.
It is also why crypto wallets and the like never took off, people don't want to give up the convenience of a bank account, understandably.
I switched when 4.7 dropped, after over a year on the service. It was an immediate improvement - not even 1 hour before Codex was giving me better results with less effort.
Stick with xhigh rather than turbo for most tasks though, now that the Age of Abundant Resets seems to be well and truly over for good (and 5h limits are supposedly returning soon).
They're absolutely best in a chocolate-in-my-peanutbutter situation - I use them to adversarially review each other's changes and ping pong the branch back and forth - A makes changes, B reviews, B makes changes, A reviews. Together they're much smarter than either individually - anthropic models tend towards more creativity, openai models can get bogged down in the nitty gritty.
I'm getting to that point as well. Has anyone noticed that sometimes claude just seems way dumber on a random day? Like they're doing some internal tweaking? Also, I'm 100% convinced that it's verbose writing style is to generate tokens to make you hit your limit quicker. I have so many rules and it still talks in this bizarrely verbose, cryptic style where it's sometimes borderline impossible to understand what it's saying.
I haven’t had any issues with Fable or Opus code-wise, but the way it has started writing recently has almost become incomprehensible.
At the end of a long session it will start saying stuff like “There are smoke tests on the foundation-gates that are left for the cutting seam checks on these domains, which is genuinely your decision”
Never before the past couple months have I ever not been able to understand wtf it’s even saying lol
I was working on a project recently that required the attribution of a data source, and it added to the "licenses" page of the project something like "We use <blah> and per their terms we owe an acknowledgement of attribution to you, the user."
So in addition to the stuff it says in a session there's gobbledy gook that it prints out in copy as well.
Hahahaha I wasn’t sure if I was getting dumb or something. Mine finishes the tasks and then outputs paragraphs of that nonsense. But the code is great.
My subscription expires tomorrow. Had subscribed ~March, eventually ended up paying for the $200 tier. However, there isn't enough of a moat for me to keep spending $200 if the models aren't being helpful anymore.
The unnecessarily jargon filled language was already pretty bad, but the latest Opus/Fable also just didn't seem to go far enough when asked to look into something, often leading me in circles.
Yeah it feels like they tune or 'optimize' the models after release and they get less useful to me as time goes by. I'm most productive the first few days after a release. Noticed this since opus 4.6.
Well the subscriptions are kind of coming to an end anyway because they can't support the subsidies. I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!
